How to use conference transfer in avaya aaod to ensure that ivr does not exit during transfer

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I used the built-in "consultation transfer" ,the "conference" and "Trasfer" in AES. None of them can realize my function. This way I can get their complete recordings. Is there any way you can implement this function in od? Thanks in advance. built-in Trasfer AES Trasfer

These are the two ways I tried, using the built-in Trasfer and the AES conference. Are these two methods used correctly? Consulation Transfer AES Conference

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